The central topic of the conversation:
A tumor is just the tip of the iceberg. Its basis is the inability, the inability of a person to cope with life's problems, psychological trauma and intrapersonal conflicts arising from unmet needs. This leads to chronic psychophysiological stress, which suppresses immunity and other anti-cancer defense systems. The result is an existential crisis with the loss of the will to live, which launches a program of self-destruction of a person in the form of cancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLv6DYk_fIs

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